HairyHammer 9:32 Tue Nov 24
Turks shoot down Russian War plane
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World war 3 coming soon, this Syria conflict is gonna be one big headache.
Pictures of the plane that apparently strayed into Turkish border coming down, but not 100% sure if Turks shot it down though that is what is being reported.
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mashed in maryland
9:26 Fri Nov 27
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Schoffie 5:18 Fri Nov 27
Always find the people who slag off Turks are the people with no real experience of them (except maybe a "I went on holiday there once and they were cunts" type stories)
Turks are generally very friendly people.
It's just fashionable in football circles to hate them cos of the Galatasaray stuff
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HairyHammer
6:00 Fri Nov 27
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Scoffie
You still have 60 percent who still respect Ataturk but alas there are a significant enough amount of Turks who think Erdogan is the greatest man God ever created though there are at least 45 percent who hate Erdogan too and they see him as someone who is taking Turkey backwards.
Your story is No surprise mate, Turks are on the whole very hospitable people.
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Schoffie
5:18 Fri Nov 27
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Hairy.. Me and our family went their on holiday same place for four years on the trot. Lovely people, had some great laughs and got lost out in the sticks once and a family that had fuck all, fed us, treated us like their own, never forget that day neither my kids, opened their eyes up how lucky they are! But, the general feeling is they hate erdgadon, they not fanatical mussies, still attatturk their hero..
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Darby_
4:53 Fri Nov 27
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Oddly enough, Ron, the bloke in the link you posted looks completely bonkers?
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HairyHammer
4:24 Fri Nov 27
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Schoffie
Religion In government only creates hate disrespect and anxiety, do it at home and believe, but for the sake of all that is Holy leave it out of Politics.
Been telling too many people this for too long but many Turks are hypnotised by the Rhetoric and very powerful speeches of Erdogan, believe me if you could understand Turkish you would be impressed, he makes most other speakers look useless in comparison , but Turkey is in one hell of a pickle right now in too deep.
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normannomates
4:24 Fri Nov 27
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That's it you're red carded scoff..see ya
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Schoffie
4:18 Fri Nov 27
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Not gonna bite and get a red because we disagree.. You know full well what I meant about my comment..
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normannomates
4:09 Fri Nov 27
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A Russian or a Turk?
Like asking Guns or knives.
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Schoffie
4:01 Fri Nov 27
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I'm one of the few that thought this was the opportunity that we can fight as one, clear up,the the religious shit that has caused most of the wars since the so called birth of Christ or Allah, or any other cunt.. I Sorta side with John lennons imagine.. Got to be better than the crap now.. Just needs someone with guts to get that stage!
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HairyHammer
3:46 Fri Nov 27
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Shoffe
Agree Russia did not think Turkey would touch them, and I am sure they would not , I honestly believe the Pilot acted stupidly and wrongly probably feeling because of his bullish presidents constant strong words and speeches, and with a big dollop of Islamic pride simply lost it. and made a big mistake.
But you cannot walk away from the fact that Russia were in their back yard and are known for that sought of behaviour but Turkey get too much from Russia to go against them I could see the blood drain from Erdogans face after the incident, and that does not happen at all.
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Schoffie
3:03 Fri Nov 27
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Still awake hairy.. Stop fucking about.. We all luv ya! X
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HairyHammer
2:50 Fri Nov 27
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Hairyhammer
Last line not ' selfless ' but helpless.
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HairyHammer
2:46 Fri Nov 27
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The Turks may have lied but does that mean you can now trust the russians ?, the Turks have not realy touched any country since 1974 and they have a rule not to .
Russia on the other hand love to do as they please unless you are an idiot stupid or so rabidly racist that you think Russians are much more honest and better than Turks look at what happened in Ukraine, and what about that downed airliner or do 283 malaysian lives matter less than one Russian pilot who was 100% near enough to Turkey to be acting the bully.
What has happened is very easy to see Erdogan the Turkish President he is like putin mentally challenged where Putin uses Russian nationalism Erdogan has increasingly been using Islamic Nationalism which means that many Turks are now much more over islamic in mind than ever before the rhetoric is all about saving Muslim peoples and that injustice must be stopped around the world , Erdogan does this brilliantly but the man is very naive or stupid to believe this could have any positive effect for Turkey in the west , in fact Turkey is in a box right now and it is all down to mighty Erdogan who has turned its back on Ataturk and secularism and democracy I wish the dumb idiots who vote for him when they are meant to vote for a prime minister the best of luck.
That Pilot who shot the Rusian plane down like most civil servants or teachers or government workers etc etc was probably a big supporter of the mighty Erdogan and allowed his nationalistic islamic feelings to get the better of him because to shoot down a Russian plane even when you have every right to is a big mistake to make and boy is Turkey paying for it now.
Russia practically own Turkey they prop Turkey up withTourism.and business ties etc and Putin has already started to act the bully by arresting Turkish businessmen ariving in Russia and sending them back to turkey 7 turkish lorry drivers were bombed by Russian planes trying to deliver aid to TUrkmens,yesterday and this is just the beginning, watch Putin go into all the muslim countries within the old soviet union, they will have to do as he says or deal with the consequencies Erdogan has been kissing Russian ass for two days now knowing full well that he needs Russia firmly on his side, funnily enough the one friend Erdogan had was Putin they know each other and are cut from the same cloth that is easy to see.
Who will suffer, not Erdogan thats for sure the poor will suffer as they always do and Erdogan will carry on with his crusade to islamify his people even more, never have i seen Turkey look more pathetic and selfless as it does now and it was all going so well too.
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Annony
2:07 Fri Nov 27
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It crossed my mind that it didn't ring true when Turkey released a statement that they could not identify the aircraft and warned it off many times before shooting it down?
First of all a Russian plane would have clear markings I assume?
Second you wouldn't risk shooting down a plane straying the border if you didn't know what country it represented as stated it could have been British, American, Israeli, French, German ect
The Russians are pesky at best, but the Turks are arse stabbers.
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Schoffie
12:23 Fri Nov 27
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I think Putin honestly thought we were on the same side after the downing of the Russian holiday plane and didn't think for once a nato country would shoot a jet down.. After paris, we were all almost all as one!! I've been to Turkey for years and the locals hate ergadon, too religious, anti west etc but takes our money!! Think it did this hiding under the nato umberlla, they were shadowing the Russian plane.. I don't trust him!! Trust Putin more than him. Obama and definitely Corbin at the moment. Cameron has a chance here to grow some balls like thatcher!!
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Ronald_antly
12:06 Fri Nov 27
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Turkey is lying
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/11/25/turkey-is-lying-paul-craig-roberts/
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Hammer and Pickle
10:52 Wed Nov 25
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Seems one of the airmen did get away.
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HairyHammer
9:59 Wed Nov 25
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Those blaming Turkey would have said nothing had the same thing happened over Russia with two Turkish pilots, such is hypocrisy.
I am 100% sure they would say that the Russians were 100% in their rights to shoot down the two arrogant Turks who were obviously taking the piss by encroaching on Russian air space.
What has happened did so because of extreme tensions, to the Turks their family was getting there ass kicked right beneath their noses, take away the tension and it would not have happened .
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Hammer and Pickle
9:55 Wed Nov 25
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Nothing fishy about it at all.
The Russian SU-24 is a bomber. The downed plane was returning from a bombing mission targeting Turkmen anti-Assad rebels without prior consultation with NATO. The machine briefly violated Turkish airspace (17 seconds), was warned 10 times and downed when it failed to respond or alter its flightpath. The parachuting pilot and navigator fell into the hands of the very people that had been on the receiving end of the bombing and were shot and killed.
All the rest is bluster and posturing.
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Pub Bigot
9:48 Wed Nov 25
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A8, there's no facts available saying they have 100% violated Turkish airspace, it's all conjecture.
The footage post Russian airman ejecting from the plane shows Turkmen shouting Allah Auakbar and shooting at the descending Russians.
This is fishy.
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After8
9:24 Wed Nov 25
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Russia can't go round violating people's airspaces and not think that they will get a response.
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